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14:27 <JohnFlux> maxima doesn't seem to like to solve a lot of equations
14:28 <JohnFlux> is there some table of rules that it uses or something?
14:28 <JohnFlux> Can I get it to solve more equations by adding more rules?
14:32 <lindi-> JohnFlux: do you know lisp?
14:33 <JohnFlux> i'm sure i could pick it up
14:40 <JohnFlux> lindi-: 
14:41 <lindi-> thinking :)
14:43 <lindi-> JohnFlux: maxima is written in lisp and its own macro language (i've forgotten its name)
14:44 <lindi-> JohnFlux: maxima has a debugger for the macro language: http://www.my-tool.com/mathematics/maximaphp/doc/maxima_42.html
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14:44 <lindi-> JohnFlux: but if you want to touch lisp parts then the debugger depends on the lisp interpreter you use
14:45 <lindi-> JohnFlux: and i'm still trying to remember which was the nicest list interpreter for debugging. i am thinking it was sbcl
15:02 <lindi-> JohnFlux: i'll script -c "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS='nostrip debug noopt' fakeroot apt-get --build source maxima" build.log
15:04 <JohnFlux> lindi-: the lisp files are compiled etc?
15:04 <JohnFlux> I mean, I can't just modify some lisp file now, without installing the source?
15:05 <lindi-> JohnFlux: with GCL they are compiled
15:05 <lindi-> JohnFlux: depends on how you are using maxima
15:06 <lindi-> "apt-get --build source maxima" didn't seem to include debugging symbomls to the binary :(
15:12 <JohnFlux> lindi-: fun fun :)
15:12 <JohnFlux> lindi-: I'll grab the source and have a play
15:12 <lindi-> found a bug about it
15:13 <lindi-> i think this confirms why GCL is not ideal for debugging
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