01:38 -!- faroe(n=faroe@port487.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #maxima 01:45 -!- HaraldG(n=rldprog@g4v1.g4.wien.funkfeuer.at) has joined #maxima 02:34 -!- Prax01D(n=Prax01D@tor58-4-74-176.dynamic.rogerstelecom.net) has joined #maxima 03:25 -!- faroe(n=faroe@port487.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #maxima 06:37 -!- stw_(n=stw@e176179078.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #maxima 08:03 -!- ASau(n=user@80.250.218.3) has joined #maxima 08:13 -!- istefano(n=istefano@65.39.87.25) has joined #maxima 08:13 -!- lisppaste4(n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) has joined #maxima 08:30 -!- Prax01D(n=Prax01D@149.99.85.25) has joined #maxima 08:51 -!- martin3z(n=martin3z@pc1-74.gwardii.osi.pl) has joined #maxima 09:18 -!- istefano(n=istefano@65.39.87.25) has left #maxima 09:24 -!- martin3z(n=martin3z@pc1-74.gwardii.osi.pl) has joined #maxima 11:56 -!- ASau(n=user@80.250.218.3) has joined #maxima 13:53 -!- Sprinter(i=Sprinter@2002:3e4b:dc76:0:0:0:0:1) has joined #maxima 13:53 ah cool :D 13:53 i just started over with wxmaxima and its exactly what i was looking for :P 13:54 is there a quick overview about constants and how i use them? 13:54 like PI should be %pi but doesnt work for me right away 14:09 anybody alive? :) 14:24 (%i1) %pi; 14:24 (%o1) %pi 14:24 (%i2) %pi, numer; 14:24 (%o2) 3.141592653589793 14:24 What is wrong? 14:36 -!- Prax01D(n=Prax01D@149.99.96.204) has joined #maxima 14:46 -!- martin3z(n=martin3z@pc1-74.gwardii.osi.pl) has joined #maxima 14:46 cant i just use %pi*3+2/5? 14:47 easy calculator mode or something like that? :) 14:47 x=((0,5-B5/B10+sqrt(4*%pi^2*B5^2-4*%pi^2*B5*B10+%pi^2*B10^2+8*%pi*B10*B12)/(2*%pi*B10))*B10*2)+B5 14:47 like this 14:49 Sprinter: Maxima is for symbolic computation at first. 14:49 Numeric calculation is side-effect. 14:49 It isn't primary goal. 14:49 hmm. 14:50 im looking for a program to recommend to a colleague who gave me some formula this morning to solve. 14:50 If your primary target is numeric calculation, try using Octave or Scilab. 14:50 i solved it on paper, but wanted to give him a handy program to do that by hisself 14:51 Well... 14:51 What kind of computation do you want: numeric or symbolic? 14:51 The decision is upon you. 14:52 the pasted formula is a good example. Its more basic solving of formulas 14:52 Maxima is for symbolic mainly, Octave and Scilab are for numeric. 14:52 he wanted to know what he gets for B12 14:52 downloading octave atm 14:52 _Numerically_ or _symbolically_? 14:52 numerically 14:53 Those are quite different things. 14:53 Alright. 14:53 You better choose proper tool then. 14:53 he uses excel right now ^^ 14:53 but it was getting too complicated 14:53 Well... 14:53 I don't understand spreadshit stuff. 14:54 Never did. 14:54 thanks for the hint, will check em out 14:54 Tried several times, but failed. 14:54 I used Scheme or Postgres for that kind of stuff. 14:55 Or AWK. 15:05 installed octave 15:05 and did not find a grafical interface --> del 15:05 scilab --> tried to use it for 5 mins without reading the doc --> del :D 15:05 Remove Maxima too. 15:05 must be somewhat useable by some non-academical persons 15:05 still maxima is the best i tried :D 15:06 You won't be able to use it without reading the documentation. 15:06 Everything, which involves mathematics requires reading. 15:07 yes of course 15:07 For instance, you couldn't find how you evaluate expression numerically. 15:07 Octave and Scilab are the best choices for quick-hand calculations. 15:22 -!- szymon(n=szymon@cay121.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #maxima 15:26 quit 16:21 -!- eggauah(n=daniel@201.82.11.172) has joined #maxima 16:38 -!- Sharpie(n=sharpie@bzq-79-180-101-26.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #maxima 16:39 um, how do i use simple trig functions? (like, sin(30)) 16:42 -!- HaraldG(n=rldprog@g4v1.g4.wien.funkfeuer.at) has joined #maxima 16:44 Sharpie: Maxima works with radians (or whatever it is called in english): sin(%pi/6) 16:55 HaraldG: uh :| right :| 16:55 thx 18:51 -!- martin3z(n=martin3z@pc1-74.gwardii.osi.pl) has joined #maxima 19:34 -!- ASau(n=user@79.111.15.34) has joined #maxima 20:36 -!- Prax01D(n=Prax01D@tor58-4-75-219.dynamic.rogerstelecom.net) has joined #maxima 21:09 -!- lisppaste4(n=lisppast@common-lisp.net) has joined #maxima 23:01 -!- grandrew(n=grandrew@ppp91-76-26-253.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) has joined #maxima